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		<title>By: Winfried Deijmann</title>
		<link>http://dontcompromise.askeurope.com/2009/06/02/organisational-learning/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Winfried Deijmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is always surprising and nice to find one&#039;s own writings quoted somewhehere else. Of course I still stand with my idea&#039;s and questions . In fact I sharpened my pencil in the mean time and wrote a more or less direct attack targeted at the Knowledge Management community. The article in question can be found through this link: 
http://www.deijmann-dialogue.eu/transknowledge.htm

They were not amused - so to speak. ;-)

The article contains some answers I found to the questions in my quote.


Winfried Deijmann
&#039;An educated mind is useless without a focused will and dangerous without a loving heart.&#039; (wd)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always surprising and nice to find one&#8217;s own writings quoted somewhehere else. Of course I still stand with my idea&#8217;s and questions . In fact I sharpened my pencil in the mean time and wrote a more or less direct attack targeted at the Knowledge Management community. The article in question can be found through this link:<br />
<a href="http://www.deijmann-dialogue.eu/transknowledge.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.deijmann-dialogue.eu/transknowledge.htm</a></p>
<p>They were not amused &#8211; so to speak. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The article contains some answers I found to the questions in my quote.</p>
<p>Winfried Deijmann<br />
&#8216;An educated mind is useless without a focused will and dangerous without a loving heart.&#8217; (wd)</p>
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		<title>By: The conundrum focus &#171; Enlightened tradition</title>
		<link>http://dontcompromise.askeurope.com/2009/06/02/organisational-learning/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The conundrum focus &#171; Enlightened tradition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] that face organisations? Rightly, in linking to an earlier post of mine, Naysan Firoozmand at the Don&#8217;t Compromise blog suggested that there was a risk of vagueness in my suggestion (channelling David Weinberger) that KM might be [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that face organisations? Rightly, in linking to an earlier post of mine, Naysan Firoozmand at the Don&#8217;t Compromise blog suggested that there was a risk of vagueness in my suggestion (channelling David Weinberger) that KM might be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Naysan Firoozmand</title>
		<link>http://dontcompromise.askeurope.com/2009/06/02/organisational-learning/#comment-55</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephen, thank you for your comments.
 
Today I find myself sat at a desk next to colleagues who operated very differently just 6 months ago.  The collective knowledge, understanding and varied interpretations of the stimulus we get from the &#039;outside world&#039; has altered our activities.  The organisation (ASK) has changed its focus, not by some edict from above but -representative of a common purpose - by the passions and motivations of the individuals.
 
The values at the heart of the organisation enable a degree of consistency, but that isn&#039;t necessarily how it learns - indeed, it&#039;s not how I learn.  So much is unconscious and autonomic that even the human body operates in blissful ignorance of how or why - yet I adapt and learn from my environment.
 
I fear that if the organisation of which I form part does not learn we will surely go the way of the Western Black Rhino of West Africa (extinct since 2006).  Part of the question we&#039;re exploring may be as simple as terminology - is what I&#039;m describing best classified as &#039;learning&#039; or &#039;adapting&#039;? Or just simply &#039;changing&#039;? (And, given how unconsciously learning can take place, can we consider adapting to be a parallel or even a synonym to learning?)
 
And how do we adapt at organisational, rather than individual, level? In as much as an organisations&#039; actions are a result of the actions, dialogues and behaviours of the individuals within it, is a &#039;learning organisation&#039; one where the behaviours of - and relationships between - its staff are the most self-aware and the most committed to acting as wisely and productively as possible. Can we even extend that to say that relationships are the behavioural equivalent of the practices that enable organisations to share knowledge: that we haven&#039;t developed software systems for &#039;Behavioural Management&#039; because its a &#039;wetware&#039; issue - the behaviours actually are us, rather than merely an attribute of us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, thank you for your comments.</p>
<p>Today I find myself sat at a desk next to colleagues who operated very differently just 6 months ago.  The collective knowledge, understanding and varied interpretations of the stimulus we get from the &#8216;outside world&#8217; has altered our activities.  The organisation (ASK) has changed its focus, not by some edict from above but -representative of a common purpose &#8211; by the passions and motivations of the individuals.</p>
<p>The values at the heart of the organisation enable a degree of consistency, but that isn&#8217;t necessarily how it learns &#8211; indeed, it&#8217;s not how I learn.  So much is unconscious and autonomic that even the human body operates in blissful ignorance of how or why &#8211; yet I adapt and learn from my environment.</p>
<p>I fear that if the organisation of which I form part does not learn we will surely go the way of the Western Black Rhino of West Africa (extinct since 2006).  Part of the question we&#8217;re exploring may be as simple as terminology &#8211; is what I&#8217;m describing best classified as &#8216;learning&#8217; or &#8216;adapting&#8217;? Or just simply &#8216;changing&#8217;? (And, given how unconsciously learning can take place, can we consider adapting to be a parallel or even a synonym to learning?)</p>
<p>And how do we adapt at organisational, rather than individual, level? In as much as an organisations&#8217; actions are a result of the actions, dialogues and behaviours of the individuals within it, is a &#8216;learning organisation&#8217; one where the behaviours of &#8211; and relationships between &#8211; its staff are the most self-aware and the most committed to acting as wisely and productively as possible. Can we even extend that to say that relationships are the behavioural equivalent of the practices that enable organisations to share knowledge: that we haven&#8217;t developed software systems for &#8216;Behavioural Management&#8217; because its a &#8216;wetware&#8217; issue &#8211; the behaviours actually are us, rather than merely an attribute of us?</p>
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		<title>By: CCCCC complimenting blog.tarn.org for the CCCCCCC of knowledge &#171; Fredzimny&#8217;s CCCCC Blog</title>
		<link>http://dontcompromise.askeurope.com/2009/06/02/organisational-learning/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CCCCC complimenting blog.tarn.org for the CCCCCCC of knowledge &#171; Fredzimny&#8217;s CCCCC Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] As mentioned in my last post, this is a critical part of knowledge sharing. Be aware, though, that this realisation is not enough: simply being smarter isn’t the whole story. Clever people still do stupid things, often on a [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: sbilling</title>
		<link>http://dontcompromise.askeurope.com/2009/06/02/organisational-learning/#comment-49</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Naysan, I find myself in agreement with Winfried, and I think the thoughts are well expressed, so kudos for doing so well in English as a second language. I am in agreement that we need a physical body to be able to learn. In other words, the mind is not something located in your head that carries on existing outside of the body. 

Mind, I think, is a process of silent conversation with oneself, between the I as the subject and the me as the object - drawing on George Herbert Mead.

Anyway, an organisation does not have a body, cannot think for itself and cannot learn. Nor does it have a heart so forget about shared values as the heart of the organisation.
Regards, Stephen]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Naysan, I find myself in agreement with Winfried, and I think the thoughts are well expressed, so kudos for doing so well in English as a second language. I am in agreement that we need a physical body to be able to learn. In other words, the mind is not something located in your head that carries on existing outside of the body. </p>
<p>Mind, I think, is a process of silent conversation with oneself, between the I as the subject and the me as the object &#8211; drawing on George Herbert Mead.</p>
<p>Anyway, an organisation does not have a body, cannot think for itself and cannot learn. Nor does it have a heart so forget about shared values as the heart of the organisation.<br />
Regards, Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: Navigating the seven Cs of knowledge &#171; Enlightened tradition</title>
		<link>http://dontcompromise.askeurope.com/2009/06/02/organisational-learning/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Navigating the seven Cs of knowledge &#171; Enlightened tradition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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